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Surcharged Token - 1 Penny, Hide & De Carle, Grocers & Wine Merchants, Melbourne, 1858 stamped 'A. Walker', Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, circa 1858 Numismatics Reg. No: NU 18801

Summary:
Copper one Penny Surcharged Token, minted by Heaton & Sons. Issued by Hide & De Carle, Grocers & Wine in Merchants, Melbourne, circa 1858. Surcharged 'A. Walker', circa 1858.

Thomas Hide and Edward De Carle formed a partnership in 1857. They had both been running their own businesses in Melbourne for several years beforehand. They founded a Grocery, Wine and Spirit merchant's business on Elizabeth Street, which lasted until 1861. Their business also included a land and estate agency. Hide and De Carle issued a total of 16 types of penny and half penny tokens, eight in 1857 and eight in 1858. All the tokens were struck by Heaton and Sons of Birmingham.

Previous Collections: National Gallery of Victoria
Description:
A round copper token (34 mm diameter) giving the name address and business of the issuer: Hide & De Carle, Elizabeth St. Melbourne, Grocers and wine merchants.. The token features at centre of the obverse a male lion standing to left with head crowned facing front, its right paw is raised and rests on a shield bearing the Union Jack, its tail curved back over its body. On the reverse a female figure representing Justice seated on a wool bale with legs to left but her head and upper body to front. A wine barrel lies on the ground behind her, its end decorated with a cross to hint at a Union Jack (as found beside Britannia on the copper coins of the period). A three-masted sailing ship sails to the right on the horizon to the left. Justice wears a blindfold and extends a balanced set of scales with her right hand. With her left she holds an inverted cornucopia from which fruits flow onto the ground. She wears an ancient-style of flowing dress bound at the waist, her left arm bare and right draped to near the elbow. It bears the date 1858. Surcharged A. WALKER
Acquisition Information:
Transfer from National Gallery of Victoria (NGV), 1976
Discipline: Numismatics
Dimensions: 34 mm (Diameter)
Weight: 14.55 g (Weight)

More information

Tagged with: grocers, surcharged tokens, wine spirit merchants
Themes this item is part of: Hide & De Carle, Grocers, Wine & Spirit Merchants, Melbourne, Victoria, Numismatics & Philately Collection, Working Life & Trades Collection, Heaton & Sons Mint, Birmingham, England
Primary Classification: TRADE TOKENS
Secondary Classification: Australia - Victoria
Tertiary Classification: surcharged strikes
Series: Trade Tokens
DateEra: 1858 AD
Denomination: 1 Penny
Obverse Description: At centre within two concentric rings of text devided by a beaded circle, a male lion standing to left with head crowned facing front, its right paw is raised and rests on a shield bearing the Union Jack, its tail curved back over its body. Around, .HIDE & DE CARLE. GROCERS & WINE MERCHANTS / . ELIZABETH STREET . MELBOURNE
Reverse Description: Female figure representing Justice seated on a wool bale with legs to left but her head and upper body to front. A wine barrel lies on the ground behind her, its end decorated with a cross to hint at a Union Jack (as found beside Britannia on the copper coins of the period). A three-masted sailing ship sails to the right on the horizon to the left. Justice wears a blindfold and extends a balanced set of scales with her right hand. With her left she holds an inverted cornucopia from which fruits flow onto the ground. She wears an ancient-style of flowing dress bound at the waist, her left arm bare and right draped to near the elbow. Around above; MELBOURNE, VICTORIA. in exergue; 1858, surcharged A. WALKER
Edge Description: Plain
Inscriptions: Obverse: HIDE & DE CARLE. GROCERS & WINE MERCHANTS ELIZABETH STREET MELBOURNE
Reverse: MELBOURNE, VICTORIA. 1858 surcharged A. WALKER
Shape: round
Material: Copper
Issued By: Hide & De Carle, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, 1858
Mint: Heaton & Sons (Mint), Birmingham, England, Great Britain, 1858
Surcharged By: A. Walker, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, circa 1858
Previous Collection: National Gallery of Victoria (NGV) Numismatics Collection, pre 1976
References: Die combination: F/6
Hide and DeCarle made issues of trade token penny and halfpenny denominations in 1857 and 1858. The tokens were manufactured by Heaton & Sons, Birmingham with well made and difficult to distinguish dies. The year 1857 saw the need for three obverse (called A. B and C) and two reverse (called 1 and 2) penny dies together with two obverse (called D and E) and two reverse (called 3 and 4) halfpenny dies. 1858 saw an additional two penny obverses (F and G) with four new reverses (5, 6, 7 and 8) while one new halfpenny reverse die was called upon (Reverse 9).

Die breaks, changes of die alignment and the technique of die linking have permitted the full sequence of production to be suggested (see Sharples NAA 7 pp36 - 40). Token storage reflects the original sequence of production, while earlier catalogues aimed only to catalogue different die combinations.

The dies were well made and clearly employed hubbing for the main pictorial elements. However, the entering of the lettering permits die identification even before characteristic breaks. Greatest accuracy of identification is by measuring spacing between certain letters or by specific letter alignment. Andrew's descriptions based on phrases like "less space", "higher" etc. make certainty of identification impossible.

Summary of die characteristics

1858 Penny obverse dies Penny Reverse dies
Die M to E E to T last T of Street Die E, to V M to horizon line A to horizon line Shape of M
F 4.0 mm 4.8 mm between NT 5 4.0 mm 5.5 mm 4.2 mm
G 4.0 mm 5.0 mm to T 6 4.0 mm 5.0 mm 4.0 mm
7 5.3 mm 5.5 mm 4.5 mm Straight
Bibliography:
  1. [Book], Dr Arthur Andrews, Australasian Tokens and Coins, Trustees of the Mitchell Library, Sydney, Sydney, 1921, No.238 & cf 1233 & 1237
  2. [Book], Dion Skinner - Renniks & Co Pty Ltd, Gilbert Heyde, Unofficial Coins of Colonial Australia and New Zealand, 1967, No.106/9
  3. [Article] Sharples, John P. 1993. A Catalogue of the Trade Tokens of Victoria 1848 to 1862. Journal of the Numismatic Association of Australia. vol.7: p.1-77., No.V.78

Comments

Walter Kwan Posted on 28 Nov 2009 11:41 AM
I have a 1858 penny as described above. How many were Minted and what is it's value? I'd love to hear back from you

Kind regards
Walter Kwan
Waverton NSW 2060
Discovery Centre Posted on 27 Dec 2009 12:37 PM
Museum Victoria Comment
Hi Walter, thanks for your question. Museum Victoria does not provide valuations for coins etc. You may find the Numismatics [Explicit] of Australia is able to [Explicit] you with a valuation. You can contact them here: http://naa-online.com/

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