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Surcharged Token - 'J.T.' on 1 Penny, J.Hosie, The Scotch Pie Shop, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, 1862 Numismatics Reg. No: NU 18765

Summary:
Copper One Penny Token, minted by Thomas Stokes, Melbourne, 1862. Issued by J. Hosie, The Scotch Pie, Melbourne. Surcharged J.T. James Hosie came to Melbourne in 1853 from Leith, Scotland. Hosie initially worked as a shoemaker, in Melbourne at the Western Markets and at the gold fields at Mount Blackwood. He returned to Melbourne and opened a shop, his father opened a pie shop next door and his success led James to follow suit. He was successful enough to move to better premises and then open both a hotel (the Baths Hotel) and Hosie's Baths, which were both successful businesses. Hosie invested heavily in land speculation at places such as Apollo Bay and Altona Bay. Unfortunately the boom burst and he had to go back to the mainspring of his wealth: selling pies. His last shop was in Little Collins Street. He died on March 30 1900, having made and lost a fortune, still running his pie shop.
Description:
A round copper token (34 mm diameter) giving the name address and business of the issuer: J. Hosie, The Scotch Pie Shop, 10 & 12 Bourke St. East, Melbourne. On the reverse at centre within a line circle a piece of grape vine with eleven large leaves and two bunches of grapes, below, but still within the line circle the manufacturers name T. STOKES MAKER MEL.; around above, VICTORIA . 1862, around below the Latin IN VINO VERITAS. Border of 116 beads. This token has been surcharged J.T.
Acquisition Information:
Transfer from National Gallery of Victoria (NGV), 1976
Discipline: Numismatics
Dimensions: 34 mm (Diameter)
Weight: 16.79 g (Weight)

More information

Tagged with: food, pies, retail trade, retailing, surcharged tokens, take away food
Themes this item is part of: James Hosie, Baker, Melbourne, Victoria (circa 1830s-1900), Domestic & Community Life Collection, Numismatics & Philately Collection, Working Life & Trades Collection, Stokes & Son, Medal Makers, Melbourne, Victoria & Sydney, New South Wales, Alfred Chitty Collection
Primary Classification: TRADE TOKENS
Secondary Classification: Australia - Victoria
Tertiary Classification: surcharged strikes
Series: Trade Tokens
DateEra: 1862 AD
Denomination: 1 Penny
Obverse Description: At centre within a line circle, J. HOSIE /-10 & 12-/ BOURKE ST. / EAST with a thistle under the name; around THE SCOTCH PIE SHOP : MELBOURNE : surcharged J.T.
Reverse Description: At centre within a line circle a piece of grape vine with eleven large leaves and two bunches of grapes, below, but still within the line circle the manufacturers name T. STOKES MAKER MEL.; around above, VICTORIA . 1862, around below the Latin IN VINO VERITAS. Border of 116 beads. This is a Stokes stock reverse, used for many trade token issuers. It is numbered in the standard catalogues as: Sharples Vine 3 = Heyde Vine 3 = Andrews 7.
Edge Description: Plain
Inscriptions: Obverse: J. HOSIE 10 & 12 BOURKE ST. EAST THE SCOTCH PIE SHOP MELBOURNE surcharged J.T.
Reverse: VICTORIA 1862 IN VINO VERITAS T. STOKES MAKER MEL.
Shape: round
Material: Copper
Issued By: J Hosie - The Scotch Pie Shop, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, 1862
Mint: Stokes (Mint), Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, 1862

Possibly stamped by J.T.Thomas of Geelong, who issued other token patterns.
Previous Collection: Mr Alfred Chitty
References: The Hosie issue of penny tokens required three obverse combined with six Stokes stock reverse dies for it's production. Identification of the die combination employed to make a particular token is the key to both the standard references and the museum storage system. The dies can be recognised by:

Obverse Leaf of thistle 10 & 12 Other
A points to J 14.0 mm no bars before and after address numerals
B passes below J 14.0 mm no bars before and after address numerals
C passes below J 14.0 mm bars before and after address numerals

Reverse dies were Stokes stock dies
The following die combinations have been recorded: A/Arms 2, A/Arms 3, A/Arms 1, B/Emu, 1 C/Emu 2, C/Vine 3 (this token)
Bibliography:
  1. [Book], Dr Arthur Andrews, Australasian Tokens and Coins, Trustees of the Mitchell Library, Sydney, Sydney, 1921, No.266
  2. [Book], Dion Skinner - Renniks & Co Pty Ltd, Gilbert Heyde, Unofficial Coins of Colonial Australia and New Zealand, 1967, No.122
  3. [Article] Sharples, John P. 1993. A Catalogue of the Trade Tokens of Victoria 1848 to 1862. Journal of the Numismatic Association of Australia. vol.7: p.1-77., V.96

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